Iep Report On The Badger Cull; Was The Cull Ever About Btb?

[Kitsune 0]

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

[The Seeker 3,048]

My opinion?

 

It shouldnt have been news, it should have been kept out of the publics eye so the scruffy work shy anti w@nkers didn't get wind of it with their pathetic disruption techniques.

 

I agree stop the trials put them on the general licence and let any farmer who's land these brocks roam around on make the decision if he wants them getting rid of or not, just like the fox.

 

My vaccine would be a 55gr .223

 

Simple.

[danw 1,748]

If they where that unsuccessful at shooting them what chance a 100% coverage with vaccine? any one who manages wildlife knows that a cull takes time even with everything in your favour and I firmly believe the lads on the badger culls did so with their arms tied so its no surprise the figures don't add up

 

Imho the people on the ground who have to live with the challenge of BTB are best placed to make the decision as to how to protect their herd it is after all in their interest to come to the best solution.

[trigger2 3,145]

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

feck the vaccination programe that again will cost the goverment alot of time and money. the easyiest sollution would be to legalize the cull of badgers for a few years and just the lads who love doing the job get on with it.

 

that option in my eyes would be a very effective and cheap option.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Badgers are culled, regular as clockwork, round here. Govt. implements it and the only c*** who ever knows it's even going on is the farmer on whose land it's being done.

 

Special body snares are used. They secure and hold the badger till Prince Charming turns up, bright and early, with his .22 rifle.

 

Big advantage of a proper thinning out, as opposed to vaccinating them against BTB is exactly that; You thin them out. Redresses the balance that bit. Ye not tripping over f**king badgers every where ye go.

 

Frankly? I like it just fine here, right after a good clean up. And, don't forget; It's not just BTB. My mate's been paying out f**king €K's in having his drains dug out and tracks repaired after the buggers have dug one up and scraped it into the other.

 

They rip up the meadows. F**k up the banks. Scoff anything they find in their path .....

 

No. It's nicer, once their numbers are brought back to realistic. Now we have the f**king pine martens ....!

 

[mushroom 13,015]

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

Anti!!!

 

The reason targets were not met is because of unwashed benefit scroungers walking the countryside at night banging pots and pans, playing at ninja and destroying legal property... Bunch of w@nkers

 

4 posts and talking about how the cull was blah You're full of shit fella

Edited April 16, 2014 by mushroom

[paulus 26]

if things were managed rather than protected the balance would be redressed. why does the badger,buzzard,sparrow hawk etc. need 100% protection when there numbers have swelled to biblical proportions, to many people with there heart where their head should be!, the countryside is managed its not natural, so it stands to reason that the animals within it will also need managing in order to redress any unbalances caused by man`s intervention in the natural order. the answer is simple control at farm level on a national level. as for vaccination do you not think the same trouble and possibly even higher costs would be incurred with again no guarantee of any success in eradicating BTB

[budharley 945]

 

 

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

Anti!!!

 

The reason targets were not met is because of unwashed benefit scroungers walking the countryside at night banging pots and pans, playing at ninja and destroying legal property... Bunch of w@nkers

 

4 posts and talking about how the cull was blah You're full of shit fella

Beat me to it

[Pedwar 320]

Definate anti

[Ideation 8,216]

At the end of the day .... We should just be sensible. If it works for the rest of Europe it'll work for us.

[The one 8,481]

I think any anti caught protesting should of immediately had there dole stopped they cant work but could protest that would of thinned them out , Then as said why was it publisided so much half of the great unwashed would never have known about it

[gonetoearth 5,144]

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

. YEH GASS THEM

[the_stig 6,614]

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

 

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

[Qbgrey 4,096]

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

your brave mate,got 4 posts and your giving your opinion on someting most of us on here no alot about,its been going on for years.who cares if the antis dont like it? these people dont like chicken farming,farmers,pig farming etc etc etc,cause there all vegan c...s.ill tell you mate if farming goes down,then this country will follow.

[Blackbriar 8,569]

 

So recently the IEP (Independent Expert Panel) report on last year's shambolic badger cull was released...

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/300382/independent-expert-panel-report.pdf

 

I just wondered what everyone else's views on this is; after all it proves Mr Owen Patterson and his "honourable" friends as liars and the idea of culling is actually not feasible.

 

First of all it was 70% were supposed to be killed in 6 weeks and marksmen only managed 24% Somerset, 37% Gloucestershire; I know the terrain in both zones is very difficult and the Anti's were out in force with their flashlights and hunting horns but were they really that effective at stopping the guns.

 

Then after Trapping/ shooting was implemented it only rose to 48% Somerset and 39% Gloucestershire with extensions added to the original period.

 

The whole thing cost the country a stupid amount of money for what? a little dent in the badger population and some bloody angry antis.

 

Personally I don't think it's worth these cull pilots going on any longer, government needs to cut their losses and just vaccinate; in I think it's 9 years nearly the whole population will be bTB free, unlike shooting which will be ineffective unless we kill all those badgers and I doubt if the anti's would allow that.

 

Any way, what are people's ideas surrounding this

 

Regards Kitsune

. YEH GASS THEM

 

By Royal approval !